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Hello and welcome to Keep Hope Alive.
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We have a great show for you today.
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I got Mr Sean Hamill here with us and he is the author Without a Compass and we're going to dive literally dive into his whole career and how he got there.
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So welcome.
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I'm so happy to have you on Keep Hope Alive, and it looks like a nice sunny day where you are.
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I see the beautiful glow coming in.
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So really quick, sean, before we get started, I got a quick question for you how many weddings have you been to, let's say, in the past 20 years?
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into, let's say, in the past 20 years.
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I'm going to speculate that it's probably been about 15 to 20 weddings.
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Wow, it sounds like you might be in the industry somehow.
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But that's cool, I mean.
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So I want to go into our first sponsor.
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They're called lifeonrecordcom, and I have another question.
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So let's say you're at a wedding, you're going into the ceremony part.
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Usually there's something to sign to let the bride and groom know you were there.
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What are you signing?
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Let's see, I would be signing the guest book, but I usually get my wife to do it because I'm awkward at signing the right thing and saying the right thing.
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But yeah, the guest book is definitely.
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Yes, so that's correct.
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So what Life on Record is?
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Instead of that guest book, they bring out a vintage rotary phone so your guests can go up to the phone, pick it up and be like congratulations, you two, we're so happy for you.
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You make a cute couple.
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And then the next person picks up the phone and leaves a message too.
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It's about time.
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Put a ring on her finger, she's a catch, whatever the message may be and I always use weddings, but this can go for any event.
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So right next to the phone, they put out a QR code too.
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So if you're in line going oh, this is the long line, you can take out your personal cell phone and scan the QR code and just do the message right over your phone too.
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So that's great.
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Now I call this the gift of voice.
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So that's great.
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Now I call this the gift of voice.
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So all these messages come in and you have a choice.
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You can have it burned on a 12-inch vinyl record or a keepsake speaker, which is really cool.
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So it could be like a year later you're sitting back supposed to be eating that anniversary cake piece, right, and then you can pop in and hear all your friends and family wishing you well.
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Now their plans start now mark my words.
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You get the phone number for a year and their plans start at $99, which is a steal of a deal.
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I love it and I always say for the wedding part make sure to call right in before the year anniversary too and just say you know what?
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Happy anniversary guys.
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You know we're here calling you so you get more messages and stuff and make them fun and creative.
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But whatever you do, have fun with this new concept.
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To find out more information about them, go to wwwlifeonrecordcom.
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All right, well, I know we were talking about water early and we're both kind of like right in the deep water, but I keep saying let's dive in.
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So who is?
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Sean Hamill in.
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So who is Sean Hamill?
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So Sean Hamill today is a lot different than the Sean Hamill of of when my story first started, or the, you know, I guess, as a teen growing up in my formative years.
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Um, back then I was saying that I was going to to, you know, live a simple life and I was going to sell t-shirts on the beach.
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It was the phrase I used to always use and really what I was talking about it was just going to, I was just going to live life by my, my way, my, my rules.
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And, um, fast forward, you know, a few years and and I, I went to college and you know I always called the go to school, then get a job, work nine to five to 65.
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And I got trapped in that whole loop that society throws us into.
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Where, you know, you get out of school, you're staring life in the face and you're going okay, what am I going to be when I grow up, so to speak?
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And I completely forgot about this dream I had of just living a simple life.
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And all of a sudden long story short within the space of about six or seven months, I went from being this dreamer self that was going to live a really simple, carefree life, to having a child on the way and getting married, and I got really serious and I completely forgot.
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In my book I talked about the three personas, and they're the dreamer self, the responsible self, and then the head shaker.
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And my dreamer self completely disappeared and I just became this responsible self that felt like I had to get you know, a job and I had to become responsible, I had to become a provider, I had to do all these things that society teaches you to do and all of a sudden I felt like I was on a freight train and I couldn't stop it Right.
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And next thing you know, I was.
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I was, you know, rising up through the corporate world and you know, I was had these fancy titles and I was traveling all the time.
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I was doing about 70 to 100 nights a year in a hotel room.
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I had a wife at home that I really loved and I really missed a lot, and kids that I loved and missed, and I remember being on a plane and thinking to myself what am I doing?
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Is this the life that I dreamt of?
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I mean it was.
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It was taking care of me financially and it was giving me rewards that way, but you know, really, what meant most to me in life was was quality time, and quality time wasn't spent alone in a hotel room, it wasn't spent on an airplane all the time, you know, traveling through airports all the time.
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And so I went through this, this, you know, kind of rediscovery, I guess, and you know it.
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It was a serious questioning of what really matters most in life.
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And so then, you know, as I went through that, I remember seeing, you know, we were in a holding pattern over Florida.
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We were coming into Tampa Bay and our flight was delayed getting out of Toronto and so, as a result, they had to slot us into a spot to get into the airport, and so we were in a holding pattern for about a half an hour, I think it was, and we did about three or four loops around tampa bay.
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You know the bay area and I remember looking down and seeing all these boats floating around.
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And it was like, you know, I grew up on on, you know, in the, in the summer times, I would get my little day sailor and I would go and sail lakes all day long.
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And all of a sudden, now I'm in, I'm questioning life and and if I'm really doing what matters most to me.
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And now I'm seeing these boats floating around below me and people are, you know, living on these boats, or you know, living on these boats, and all of a sudden it put me through this reflection on.
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That's what I dreamt of when I was a kid and a teen and what I used to always tell my dad that I was going to do when I grew up, and it used to drive him crazy because he was such a straight-laced man and you know it.
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Just, it seems so metaphorical, but at the same time, the timing was so perfect and you know, and so I had.
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You know, that's what the book is all about is discovery.
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We went through, we ended up, you know, eventually I ended up quitting the corporate world and, long story short, we went sailing.
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And so we went sailing for about 12 months and, you know, we realized that life that I dreamt of.
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And, you know, we went to a bunch of adventures beyond that.
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But that kind of brings me up to now as to who is Sean Hamill.
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Oh wow.
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So a whole year on a boat.
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So where did you start and where did you end up?
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So it's actually kind of funny.
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So we had a boat when I finally did quit the corporate world.
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We had a boat up in north of Toronto and my son had just graduated from high school and he didn't know what he wanted to be in life and the last thing I wanted to do is see him make a rash decision and fall into the wrong spot.
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So I said to him I said, okay, well, we're going to go sailing.
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And I said this is going to be your first year of college.
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You're going to go sailing with us and you're going to get life experience instead of, you know, going to the wrong program in college or whatever you're going to do.
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He actually was very reluctant at first.
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I had to convince him and I thought what kid that age would you know?
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But he was.
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He was exactly what, like many of us do is is he thought he had to just jump in and realize what he had to become right away, like society teaches us Right, and so, so, yeah.
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So, long story short, he eventually came around and he said he was going to bring his buddy with him.
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So the boat we had was too small.
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So we said, okay, well, we'll sell that boat, and then we'll get a bigger boat.
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And we shopped around for a while and we had all this by the fall of 2014.
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And we knew that if we set a timeline, that we would have to live to that timeline.
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But all of a sudden, the walls were closing in.
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The dates are getting closer.
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We had two properties and we wanted to sell at least one.
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We wanted to sell that boat so we could get another boat.
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And we're going through all this and we're getting closer and closer to our deadline.
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And it got to a point where we said if it doesn't happen by this day, then that's it.
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We're going to have to cancel and do it another year.
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And it was the thursday of that.
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Our deadline was a saturday, and it was a thursday of that that week and all of a sudden, bang, bang, bang.
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We sold two properties and the boat, all pretty much within 24 hours of each other so now we went from having a house, having an investment property, having a boat, to having nowhere to live within a month and a half, and so, long story short, we ended up renting an rv.
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We asked um, you know, we knew that when we, when we were done, we found the boat, we were going to have to get the RV back to Toronto.
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So we asked my parents and my wife's parents if they would be interested in coming with us so that they could take the RV back to Toronto.
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And both parents agreed to do it.
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So there was me, my wife, my son, our two Alaskan Malamute dogs which were, you know, 60 and 90 pounds, and then four parents, sets of parents, my mom, dad, my wife's mom and dad.
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So seven people and two Alaskan Malamutes living in a 30 foot RV.
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For a year.
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No, for the two weeks we went what we did is we?
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Oh, okay, I was like whoa, that's tight net.
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Yeah, no, no.
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We loaded all of the stuff we needed to go boating with into the back of the RV and then we loaded the seven people and two dogs in and said, okay, we'll go down to Annapolis, maryland, and find a boat.
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And so we remember when we went across the border, the border guard was we.
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He was asking us what we're doing and as soon as I told him that we were going to go sailing, his face lit up.
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He had tons of questions and then he came around and looked inside the RV, saw all the people and the two dogs were sitting right there and he walked back around and very quietly just handed me all of our passports and said good luck, right.
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It was like he was astonished that we were trying to do this with that many people and in the boat.
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We ended up living in the rv for about two weeks.
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We found a boat within a week or so.
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The boat needed some renovations, but as soon as we took possession of the boat, my wife and I both moved on to the boat to create some space in the rv and, uh yeah, after another week we said goodbye to the parents.
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They took the the rv back to toronto and then my wife and my son and myself and the dogs you know got on the boat and we started sailing south.
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Oh, my goodness.
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Okay, so the dogs were.
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I was at the lake yesterday and just sitting there it was so peaceful and I told my friend I go these boats pulling in, I just like the sound of the water hitting the boat because it's like a slosh I go, I could probably really relax to that.
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But just being there in nature and I bet that was very soul searching for all of y'all.
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But also your mind is probably creating all of these new ideas too of what you want to accomplish in life.
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Am I right?
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oh yeah, I mean, that's the thing is there's there's no, no clearer way to think than when you're sitting on a boat in a, in a quiet anchorage, away from society and, yeah, like you say, the boat's lapping against or the sorry, the water is lapping against the side of the boat and you know it's just.
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It's mind blowing how clear your mind can become in that moment.
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So wait, did you have?
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There's no cell service, right?
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So was there no technology on your trip?
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Yeah, generally, you know, we weren't very long without cell service.
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So when we sailed we sailed.
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There's a body of water called the Intercoastal Waterway.
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So Intercoastal Waterway was designed back in the 1800s to create a safe passage north-south along the Us east coast so that if there were storms on the atlantic ships could still carry goods safely in the inland right.
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And so, yeah, so we generally always had, you know, cell service.
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There were times I remember there was one place we were like 20 minutes south of myrtle beach but we were in this anchorage that was.
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You've ever had that moment when it's so quiet you can hear your ears ringing you know there's nothing else and we had an anchorage like that and every once in a while we were in a flight path to Myrtle Beach.
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So every once in a while a plane would go over our heads and it would remind us that society was near us.
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But in that moment you would have never guessed that we were anywhere close to society.
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And you know, there was moments like that where we didn't have cell service, and it was refreshing.
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But generally speaking.
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That was the beauty of it is we were close to society, but we could always escape society.
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Yeah, so how many storms did you hit?
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Actually, we went down all the way to the Florida Keys and we were on our way back up before we hit our first storm, and you know before that we were always careful we would be tucked in someplace if there was a storm coming.
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But yeah, on that day we got complacent.
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Long story short, we had gone around to the west coast of Florida.
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We had gone around to the west coast of Florida and there's a water body or a waterway called the Okeechobee Waterway.
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That goes right across the middle of Florida, and the one hassle with the Okeechobee Waterway is there's a train bridge that only rises up to 49 feet, and our mass was 52 feet.
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So if you know geometry, there's not an easy way to get under that bridge.
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So we had to actually get a guy named Billy the Tipper who came and put water barrels on the side of our boat and filled the water barrels up until the boat, to the point where the boat actually tips over enough.
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So now it gets underneath of that bridge.
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Billy was a really difficult guy to get a hold of, and so I was very stressed out about whether he was actually going to show up that day to do it, because we were stuck in the middle of nowhere between the lock wall and the bridge.
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We didn't have a lot of supplies, you know.
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I think we only had about two days left of beer, and for sailors that's.
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that's panic time, um, but yeah, I was going to ask you about groceries.
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I mean, you're important to probably go and see some sites right along the way.
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So, able to go to a restaurant and everything and get more groceries and I know you had to.
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It takes gas right yeah, in the boat yeah, so you had to fill up.
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Yeah, yes, it took a lot of planning, you know, and at that spot I'm talking about, we had two alaska malamutes and they never learned to relieve themselves on the boat, which, you know, on the deck.
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That's what sailors often do is, if they can't get to shore, the dogs have to learn to do that they.
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They never learned that, and here we were in a waterway that was known to have alligators in it, right, and so I remember there was a boat, um, a boat ramp, uh, where in the little area that we were stuck in.
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So my son had to take the dogs over to the boat ramp in our inflatable dinghy, um, and he just pushed the boat against the boat ramp, let the dogs jump out.
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I said, stay in the boat, and if an alligator does come, then you know, get the dogs back in.
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And he said, but don't get out of the boat.
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And so that's kind of the decisions we were faced with in in in that moment, right, but yes, so billy the tipper did come, he got us tipped over enough that we got under that bridge, and after that we were just so relieved that, you know this, this obstacle that was in our way is now out of our way, and, and it was a beautiful day and we just let our guard down, right yeah, and we get to the end of this waterway and we get back to the intercoastal waterway and we had about an hour left and two hours left to get to our destination for that night and all of a sudden a big storm dropped right on top of us and I panicked.
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I'm sitting there and I'm barking orders to my wife and to my son get this, find that.
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And we're trying to figure out where there's a safe spot around us.
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And up until then we always tracked where we were, we always knew exactly what was around us, and so on.
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We let our guard down and we didn't have any of that information.
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And so all of a sudden, we had to figure all this out and it was our first storm and we couldn't even see the front of the boat.
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It was raining that hard right oh, wow and uh, and then all of a sudden you know you're.
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You know, when you start to think rationally again, then you start to think practical solutions and I realized that the, the gps system that I had right in front of me showed me where I was relative to the edges of the waterway.
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It showed me where the bridges were.
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The only thing I couldn't see is if there was other boats out there around me.
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So we just slowed right down to the point where if we happened to bump into anything, it was going to be pretty much inconsequential.
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Anything, it was going to be pretty much inconsequential.
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Just kept enough speed so that we could keep, you know, the the weather from overtaking us and driving us into something.
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And then we just rode it out until the, until the storm stopped right and yeah, yeah, I was.
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I was like, where did they put the bathrooms on the boats?
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I was telling my friend that yesterday, because I mean, when you're just at a lake and not the ocean, you don't?
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Well, everybody seems like in Texas they have a big boat, you know it's like.
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But I was like my friend, she goes, they just go in the lake.
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I was like, oh, typical bathroom.
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Then Our boat was a three bedroom, two bathroom, so we were good there.
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Oh, wow, okay, Gotcha.
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Yeah, it's like I want to see this picture of the boat all of a sudden.
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So what kind of like I mean you, you've traveled so far.
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You had to see, probably, sharks.
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What other things did you see along the way?
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I remember distinctly the first time that we saw a dolphin, and my wife loves dolphins um, leanne is my wife and dolphins, just they make her day.
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We were in Beaufort, north Carolina, and we were just rounding a corner, had just gone underneath the bridge and if we had gone straight we would have gone out to the ocean.
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We rounded the corner to follow the intercoastal waterway and there was a dolphin right there and the glow, the excitement, the giddiness on my wife's face, my wife's reaction, made the whole trip worthwhile.
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You know, just to see her get that excited about anything was just.
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It lit up my world.
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And you know we got to to the florida keys.
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We had a pod of dolphins that were following with us and the dogs used to always chase around the boat to try and go to wherever the dolphins were.
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It's still that, many miles after we saw our first dolphin, it was still just so fun to see the dolphins.
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And then the other thing that occurs to me is when we were coming back north, we were out on the Atlantic.
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The other thing that occurs to me is when we were coming back north, we were out on the Atlantic and we were about probably four miles out from shore and we?
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I just caught out of the corner of my eye, a small whale.
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I saw just as it was yeah, it was, it was breaching, and so I just saw its back and then its tail flap up in the air.
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It was probably close enough that if I had noticed it as soon as it did it, I probably could have reached over the side of the boat and touched it.
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You know, it was that close so on the one hand it could have been dangerous, but it wasn't.
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It didn't turn out that way and, yeah, it was just amazing to have something that big and powerful and be that close to you, you know.
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That is cool.
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You see, my thing is sea turtles.
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I would want to see so many sea turtles.
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I've seen many since then, but we didn't see any on that trip.
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Wow, okay, they all go with the current.
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Maybe they're just all underwater, I don't know.
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I am so fascinated with them.
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And then tortoises I've been following on Facebook because in my life I feel like I want a tortoise as a pet but I have nowhere to keep it and I was like, oh man, but they are the coolest and they're like they live.
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So long, nadine, I go.
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I know I would have to write it in my will.
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Who wants it?
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And they probably don't want it.
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Yeah.
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I was snorkeling in Mexico when we did our RV trip and I had my wife's niece snorkeling with me and I remember her tapping me in the shoulder and pointing for me to turn around.
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And I turned around and within four feet of me was a huge sea turtle, you know, from the top of its head to the bottom of its legs it was probably almost as tall as me and it was just swimming up behind me.
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You know, it was just something that I look back at now and think why wasn't I scared?
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But it was just so tranquil in the moment, right, Just no threat at all.
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It was amazing.
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See, I think I'd be too.
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You don't like deep water, but yeah, I'd be too scared to snorkel.
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Like deep water, but yeah, I'd be too scared to snorkel.
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But I'm a photographer and I've always wanted to do pictures underwater and I'm like, okay, not in the ocean.
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I think the closest thing I would do is a pool with dogs.
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You throw the ball right over me and when the dog jumps for the ball, you throw the ball right over me.
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And when the dog jumps for the ball, when they hit the water, their face smiles.
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It's the coolest thing.
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I was like that is as far as I'll go, but I feel like I've always.
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When I'm at the aquarium, I love taking pictures of jellyfish.
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I'm just like they're so pretty and I'm like, yeah, I just don't want to see that in real life.
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And then I'll probably have a panic attack right underwater seeing anything and I'm like, yeah, let's leave that to the professionals, you know.
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So, yeah, but definitely Just really quick.