Aug. 17, 2024
Navigating Chronic Illness with Humor and Resilience with Heather Gray
Heather Gray joins us on Keep Hope Alive, bringing her unique blend of expertise as a functional diagnostic nutritionist and comedian to share her inspiring journey through chronic illness. Heather’s story is a testament to resilience, as she navigates the complexities of celiac disease, Lyme disease, mold toxicity, and mental health challenges, all while turning her pain into laughter. She helps us understand the significant differences between functional and traditional Western medicine, particularly in addressing brain inflammation and mental health—topics often misunderstood and overlooked.
Heather provides an enlightening discussion on the symptoms and challenges of diagnosing Lyme disease and mold-related illnesses. With personal anecdotes, she highlights the frustration many patients face and the perseverance required to find accurate answers. She introduces us to alternative testing methods, such as Vibrant Labs and Dna Connections, and underscores the importance of knowledgeable practitioners in the journey toward healing. Heather also emphasizes the critical need to address the root causes of chronic pain and autoimmune diseases, advocating for lifestyle changes rather than merely masking symptoms.
In a heartwarming blend of humor and heartfelt discussion, Heather shares her experiences with societal pressures and misinformation that keep people unhealthy. She dives into the significance of emotional and psychological healing and the incremental improvements that mark the path to better health. Heather’s use of comedy not only raises awareness but also lightens the mood around serious health issues. Don’t miss her insights on the health risks of consuming tuna due to mercury content, the potential benefits of raw milk, and her upcoming comedy shows that promise both laughter and enlightenment. Stay tuned to Keep Hope Alive for more inspiring stories and practical health tips!
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Chapters
00:02 - Chronic Illness and Comedy
08:58 - Navigating Chronic Illness and Finding Answers
21:45 - Holistic Healing and Lifestyle Education
30:58 - Healing, Comedy, and Self-Expression
44:03 - Health and Nutrition Awareness Discussion
54:01 - Grocery Store Tour and Comedy Integration
Transcript
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Hello and welcome to Keep Hope Alive podcast.
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We have a wonderful guest today.
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I'm so excited to have Heather Gray here with us.
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I am just so amazed.
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She's truly talented and funny.
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She is a diagnostic nutritionist.
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She knows a lot about different chronic illnesses and complex illnesses and on the side the fun part she's a comedian.
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With going out on her little comedian tours and everything and having a good time, I'm sure we're going to have a great visit today.
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So welcome, heather, I'm so excited to have you here.
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Thanks for having me.
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Oh, you're welcome.
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I do have one question before we get started how many weddings have you been to in the last 15 years?
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Not very many, I would say three.
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Three, okay.
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Well, my next question would be say you're going to a wedding, you're going into the ceremony part.
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What is that thing you need to sign that the bride and groom know you're here?
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A registry.
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Yes, very good, okay.
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What do I win?
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You win a new shiny penny Copper Love it.
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You were hoping for a car, right.
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You win a new shiny penny.
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Oh copper.
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Love it.
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You were hoping for a car right.
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I was.
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I thought you were going to pull an Oprah on me.
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You get a car and you get a car.
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That would be so nice.
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I would love for that one day.
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Maybe we can find a sponsor who will do that on one of the shows.
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If you're listening, you have won.
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All right.
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So my first question is who is Heather Gray?
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That's a good question.
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I'm still trying to figure that out myself, you know.
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But I think what most people want to know is like, how did you get started in this line of work?
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You know I'm a functional diagnostic nutritionist and you know it's functional.
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Functional, yeah, that's a huge key piece because there's a definite difference between functional medicine and and kind of western med.
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And I always have to start off with the disclaimer I am not poo-pooing western med.
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You know, if you get caught in a car accident and you become the bionic woman like, there is nothing better than western bed to put you back together.
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But when it comes to chronic, complex illnesses, prevention we all know that it falls drastically short of being helped.
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You know with, you know, the United States being one of the lowest in far as you know health goes and we're spending the most money on prescription drugs.
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Like there's a there's a disconnect there.
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But my disconnect started when I was four.
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I was basically born full of shit.
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You know, like how many people could relate to being constipated as a kid?
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You know my feet would fall asleep from sitting on the potty for so long and that's what started me off with the let's put band-aids on symptoms.
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You know, let's give her laxatives and stool softeners, but let's you know, I haven't tried to figure out why this four-year-old can't poop Hindsight's 2020.
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That was the year my uncle committed suicide.
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That was also the year my grandmother died of breast cancer.
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I was being raised by alcoholic addicts, young alcoholic addicts.
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So needless to say that the trauma the early childhood trauma in my life was was great and it triggered my celiac disease, and so I think that's kind of what started me on my path to being more prone to autoimmune mold, toxicity, lyme disease, two stints in the psych ward myself for suicide attempts, a hundred pounds overweight, issues with addiction, like all the things, but definitely the one that I'm most outspoken about is usually Lyme and mold and mental health stuff, because it's just still not a lot of people are talking about it.
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Not a people realize you know how much it affects people.
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You know.
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That's why in some of the comedy I bring up brain inflammation and hey, let's stop calling people crazy.
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Instead, let's say your brain inflammation is showing right, because once you have that stigma of crazy slapped on you, it's really, really hard to get off and it's really hard for people to take you seriously after things like that have happened.
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So it's a subject I'm really passionate about.
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Yeah, I would be too.
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And before we even got started, I told you about my best friend being exposed to mold and that's hard.
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She's no longer with us, but you know she she's probably here in spirit, right next to me going.
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Oh my gosh, she would be yelling at you.
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Tell the world what I went through.
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So that would be from charity.
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Yeah, absolutely, and it's.
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It's sad that still.
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I mean mold is even even more confusing and not enough known about than Lyme disease.
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Like Lyme was the big mystery one years ago, but we're now starting to get more and more education and awareness around it.
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Mold is so much more insidious because I mean when they say the statistics are like 50% of buildings have been water damaged and so if you have water damaged buildings, you know you have a higher risk of mold.
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If you've got crappy genetics, like I do, that doesn't allow your body to detox mold.
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You could be out of mold from 10 years ago but still having effects from it because you have to do something special to detox it out of the body.
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You know you get mold from eating grains and drinking coffee.
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Coffee, peanuts and grains are some of the biggest sources of mold in our food.
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People don't realize it and so it's a pretty gnarly, especially with all the ADHD, the anxiety, the depression, the asthma, allergies, food sensitivities, like a lot of these things.
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People don't realize migraines, you know actually very well, could be a mold toxicity issue and not, you know, a Ritalin deficiency or a Prozac deficiency, or you know what I mean.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I do.
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I keep thinking back to me because my doctor, I thought I was having a stroke and they were like, no, you just got chronic migraines.
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I was like I think I would know the difference, but obviously I don't.
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They're my doctor.
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So they were like here's a pill.
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That's the famous line here's a pill, try this, let's see what it does for you.
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And I remember I was at my neurologist.
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He was trying to put me on something else too.
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And I go hey, tell me what's the vitamin that acts like this.
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And he's like magnesium.
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I go okay, that's all I need.
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I don't want to try another pill.
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I'm tired of pills Like, give me a vitamin, but definitely.
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I mean I kind of like Lyme disease.
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I'm trying to remember all that entails in that.
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So can you tell me a little bit about Lyme?
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Lyme is the great mimicker.
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They also call it a nature's dirty needle, because a tick or another you know blood sucking insect will go from creature to creature to creature to creature, kind of developing this little cocktail of stuff.
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And so by the time it gets to you then you get all the things and it usually never comes by itself.
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So Lyme itself is a spiral-shaped bacteria and it's related to syphilis and it can infiltrate any system, any organ, any tissue in the body and kind of start shutting things down slowly.
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It loves collagen, so it really likes to hang out in people's joints.
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That's why there's so much joint pain.
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It likes to cause a lot of inflammation.
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It can cross the blood-blaine barrier.
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That's why there's a lot of mental illness around folks with Lyme.
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So some of the more common symptoms are fatigue, night sweats, not being able to sleep, anxiety, depression, chronic, widespread pain.
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Migrating pain is probably one of the biggest ones, though You'll see a flag on the play because there's only like six diseases in the whole disease category that has migrating pain as one of the symptoms.
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So if you have a friend who talks, one day, oh, that's my right shoulder one day, and the next day it's my left elbow and then it's my right knee.
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They're not crazy, you're a hypochondriac.
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It very well could be Lyme disease.
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So, most folks think that you get that bullseye rash.
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Sadly, only 30% of the population gets that bullseye rash.
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If you have that bullseye rash, you absolutely have Lyme disease.
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But just because you didn't get the bull's eye rash doesn't mean that you're in the clear, you know.
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So it usually also comes with co-infections other viruses, other bacteria, mold, mold and Lyme are usually hand in hand and often misdiagnosed because a lot of the symptoms kind of overlap each other.
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But yeah, that's kind of Lyme.
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In a nutshell, there's a lot of different species.
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There's one out there right now that comes from the Lone Star tick that causes something called Alpha-Gal syndrome, where it actually gives you an allergic reaction to red meat.
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So people can no longer eat red meat.
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Wow, yeah, now is there anything like people can just go get tested and make sure they don't have mold.
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Mold or Lyme, both.
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So the testing for both can be a little on the funky side.
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Lyme has its tendency to like to shut your immune system down.
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So if you've had it for a while, a traditional test that your doctor will do most likely will come back negative, which is false.
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They'll want to do a Western blot, they'll do an ELISA, which there's massive flaws in both of those testing.
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I use a company called Vibrant Labs.
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Dna Connections, igenix are really great companies to get tested for Lyme Mold same thing.
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Mold sometimes can be a little more difficult because it depends on.
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There's not a real great test out there that can tell you like is it right now, is it from food, is it from your water building, or is it like in my case, was it from 10 years ago that you're still, you know, circulating in your body and having issues with you know?
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So a lot of times I'll test a person's environment and test themselves to kind of see what might be going on.
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But yeah, there's a lot of testing can be tricky but there's definitely ways around it.
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Yeah, because I know where my friend was staying.
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She didn't know there was mold under the couch in the living room and that was a majority of time spent there.
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So when it got into her lungs it's just eating away.
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She couldn't get rid of it.
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Hospitals had a hard time trying to get rid of it.
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Then she's on oxygen.
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It's like you know.
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I think if doctors I hate to say this they need to be more understanding what the patient is going through instead of being like oh well, I don't know this, this is not considered an emergency, you're not dying right now.
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Just follow up with your doctor.
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Did you know what doctors do now?
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Oh, go to the emergency room.
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You know you're finding this as an emergency.
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So how?
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I mean?
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Yes, they overlap each other and it's confusing.
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I'm sure there's people here going I have those symptoms, but maybe I don't have Lyme or I don't have that, but I have all these other aches and pains that will come with autoimmune, and that's where I'm really going with this is the word autoimmune can mean so many different illnesses, correct?
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Oh yeah, okay, so I mean, the one thing everybody knows about me is we can't figure out what's wrong with you.
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You know you can go testing in this other state and they can try to figure it out.
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I'm just at the point.
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It is what it is.
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I'll just sit back and enjoy life and if it gets really, really, really bad, then I'll go.
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But I don't know if you ever heard of this one thing called neuralgia parathasikia.
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Have you ever heard of that?
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I have no feeling in my left leg.
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I can walk.
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I'm not crying all the time, but I've been shocked like lightning 20, 30 times a day.
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It's gone down into my foot for diabetic neuropathy.
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But they put a stimulator in my back.
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I'm battery operated now.
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I mean they want me to charge myself for like two hours.
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It was weird because for me that I've turned myself off.
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That sounds funny.
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I turn myself off.
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I don't use that because I think it was actually making whatever currents in my leg worse.
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So, but I'm just going to.
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We're electromagnetic beings.
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So I mean, if you've got something in your body that's interfering with your electrical field, I mean absolutely it's going to you know I'm a big fan of of getting to the root cause of things.
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Right, and sadly a lot of folks do.
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They'll be like I've seen 10, 15, 20, 30 practitioners and nobody can give me any answers, you know.
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And so then I tell them well, what's your, what's your choice?
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Just to go, you know, lay down, give up and and and take whatever comes at you.
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You know, it could be that 31st practitioner that actually knows what the hell's going on.
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And then, yay, look at all the things that you've ruled out, that you know that it's not right.
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Like I mean, it took me 27.
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I was undiagnosed for over 27 years, you know, and if I would have completely given up, I'd probably be dead right now instead of being.
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She had a little twinkle in her eye and she goes.
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I know exactly what's wrong with you and I was like you're freaking crazy lady, like there's no way in hell.
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And she's like, do you ever get bit by a tick?
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I said yeah, when I was 13,.
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Why she goes?
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I'm pretty sure you have Lyme disease and that was what started that journey.
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Now there were multiple layers to pull back since then.
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So then I, you know, worked with the Lyme.
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I worked with the parasites, the heavy metals, the leaky gut, and then I hit a plateau and my plateau was living in mold, right, and then I tested positive and my cons in my nose.
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So then I had to peel that stuff back and then I started relapsing again and then that was when I started doing the nervous system resetting because mold is insidious.
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We all kind of maybe have heard of the fight or flight syndrome.
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Right, our autonomic nervous system, we got rest and digest, parasympathetic, sympathetic.
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Fight or flight, and mold is insidious for turning on those alarm bells in your nervous system Fire, fire, fire, fire.
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But the sad thing is is even when you're out of the building the alarm bells are still on, nobody shut them off.
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So you're in fight or flight all the time and you can't heal when you're always running from a tiger.
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So that was the last little piece that I had to work with was kind of getting my nervous system calmed down.
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You know mindfulness, training, nervous system rewiring, that kind of stuff, and it really helped dial things into the point where I haven't had a relapse.
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I haven't had a Lyme flare and autoimmune flare in over three years.
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You know, if I get a cold, I just get the cold.
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When I got COVID, I got my ass kicked and I got COVID, you know.
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But I got over it and it wasn't anything else along with it because of all the things that I've done in the way that I live my life now, you know it's to some people it looks a little on the high maintenance side.
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I look a little bit like a bubble girl without the bubble, but again, I'm living freaking life to its fullest in a way that I never thought I could.
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I'm always telling people don't give up.
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Don't give up, continue to look.
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It's frustrating, but don't give up.
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There's somebody out there that's going to have the answers for you.
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Yeah, and when you find those doctors, it's amazing that they actually want to help or they tell you something.
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How have you looked into this?
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I've ran into doctors I felt and they go hold on, I'll be right back.
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And I picture them walking into another room hey, alexa, what does she have?
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You know?
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different things like that that's funny.
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Oh my gosh, my Alexa just went off.
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Hold on, alexa, turn off.
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I'm sorry, that's so fun.
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I'm going to turn her off too when I do a podcast.
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I'm having trouble finding out what's wrong with you.
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Well, and part of it could be Alexa, because a lot of that Bluetooth and wi-fi that we got going on it's a little too much for our electoral.
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You know I said yes, we're electrical beings.
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A lot of that stuff interferes.
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You know, one of the biggest things that I tell people to do right off the bat is to shut their wi-fi off at night, because giving their body a break from the constant barrage of electrical signals, especially to those of us that have got chronic illness I've seen it almost every single time If you've got any kind of chronic anything going on, you typically have the genes that make you a little bit more susceptible to being sensitive to EMFs, being sensitive to chemical exposures, like perfumes and glade plug-in that kind of nastiness that nobody should be using because it's toxic.
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But uh, yeah.
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So you know, lowering your pollution you know whether it's chemical or emf, you know helps- out greatly.
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Yeah, definitely, I hear you.
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My biggest thing is I'll watch reels to fall asleep, but then I'll put it down.
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I've watched TV and if that doesn't work, I put my AirPods in and listen to an audible book.
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For some reason, authors can put me to sleep.
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I don't get it.
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But I listen to the five-hour stories and I'm like uh-huh, I'm probably talking in my sleep like hey, that's a good boy.
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But yeah, also, growing up with epilepsy, I know it's not good for me to see a lot of the computer screens or even flashing lights or stuff like that.
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And it's important for me to actually get a full night of sleep, because if I only get like four hours, that can trigger a seizure and I don't like that.
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So I'm always like no, go to bed early, do this and that you know, be on top of your game.
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So, but definitely so.
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Do you do maybe it's on your podcast or do you help people through zoom meetings, trying to help them figure out, you know, if something's happening to them?
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