Aug. 26, 2024
From Mental Hellness to Wellness: A Journey of Hope with David Woods Bartley
What if hope could be the bridge between mental hellness and mental wellness? In our latest episode of "Keep Hope Alive," we bring you the incredible journey of David Woods Bartley, affectionately known as Woody, and his loyal pug, Lexi. Woody recounts his life, filled with both heartache and triumph. From losing his father to lung cancer and battling severe depression, to becoming a father figure to his partner's children, Woody's narrative is a testament to resilience and the power of hope.
Join us as Woody bravely discusses the darkest periods of his life, including his struggle with insomnia, reliance on Ambien, and the trauma of abuse at a young age. Despite these challenges, Woody and his wife have successfully run an animal sanctuary, offering a sanctuary not just for animals but also for their own souls. Woody sheds light on the importance of self-care practices, from diet and exercise to the life-changing impact of electroconvulsive therapy (ECT). His story underscores that seeking treatment is an act of courage, not weakness.
This episode doesn't just stay rooted in Woody's experiences; it also honors the extraordinary musical achievements of Richmond, a professional violinist with an illustrious career. We celebrate his journey from Juilliard to playing in front of massive audiences. Through these deeply personal stories, we emphasize the significance of compassionate support, connection, and emotional awareness as pillars for overcoming life's hardships. Tune in for an episode rich with hope, resilience, and the sheer power of human connection.
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Love & Light - Keep Hope Alive
Chapters
00:02 - Hope and Resilience
11:04 - Overcoming Depression and Seizures
22:41 - Journey of Hope and Healing
36:06 - Sacred Eagle Scout Card Sharing
41:04 - Anxiety Relief Tools and Hopeful Stories
50:53 - Musical Success and Inspirational Stories
Transcript
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hello and welcome to keep hope alive.
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Today we got a wonderful guest.
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His name is david woods bartley.
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He is a speaker, but he is gonna be speaking on a lot of stuff.
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His dog, lexi, is there too.
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She's a cute little pug.
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You see her every now and then, but but welcome to Keep Hope Alive.
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I'm so excited that you're on the show.
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Well, thank you so much for having me, and you know, as you'll find out I don't know if you know hope is a foundational principle in all the work that I do, so that's why I was so I like being probably annoyingly persistent, like please, let me on the show.
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No, that is fine, that is fine.
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I do get people that want to be on the show and it's so funny.
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Just recently, I think, there's been four people and they said, oh, your calendar is not working right and they're like I need to get on.
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And I was like I wish I could clone myself as my answer, because I work a full-time job too, and I was just like but it's such a good message to people.
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That's the thing, and I want to do more.
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I think I might be adding Tuesdays, trying to do one after work as well.
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So I'll have three days and then my Sundays I try to do three.
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Sometimes it goes into four, but I'm trying to figure out.
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So it's a lot of stuff and it's a great topic.
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I love dogs.
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No, sorry, go ahead, you go ahead, okay.
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Well, my first question for you is off topic how many weddings have you been to in the last 15 years?
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That's a good question.
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You know, I think I average about a wedding a year, so I'd probably say I think 15 is a good number.
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Okay, cool, that is a good number, so well.
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So let's say you're going to a wedding, it's a ceremony part.
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You're walking through the doors.
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Usually there's something there to sign that the bride and groom will know that you were there.
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What are they signing?
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they, and I think it's called different things.
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But you know, for me it's a guest, a guest registry.
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You know, you gotta let them know in case they didn't see me Like look, no, I was there.
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Look, I signed the book.
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I signed the book.
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Yes, well, one of our biggest sponsors is Life on Record and what they do instead of doing a book, they have a vintage rotary phone.
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They put out there and your guests pick it up.
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They can leave a message Congratulations on your big day, now pick it up.
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They can leave a message Congratulations on your big day.
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Now you can leave a five minute, 10 minute, 30 minute message.
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But please, if it's a wedding, no 30 minutes.
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And then right next to it is a QR code.
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So if there's a line forming and it's long, you can take out your mobile device and scan that code also.
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But I think everybody likes to pick up the phone and leave the message.
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But you can use your own phone for before or after.
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And I think this is such a great concept because it's like the gift of voice.
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They will get all these messages and you can have it either burned on a 12-inch vinyl record or they will do it on a keepsake speaker that they call a little boom box.
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So let's say it's their one-year anniversary, sitting back eating that top layer of cake and sitting back and listening to all those messages.
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So that's a really great concept.
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I like it better than a book I don't know how many people actually go back and look at the book than a book.
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I don't know how many people actually go back and look at the book, but I would definitely always go back to hear the recordings.
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I know that for a fact.
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But you get this phone number.
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I said the phone number.
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You got to return the phone, but you get the phone number for one year.
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And it doesn't matter what kind of event it is.
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I always use a wedding as a sample, but like family reunions, graduation parties, birthdays, like big milestone ones, whatever the occasion, you can definitely use that.
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So plans $99.
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You get the phone number for one year.
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So even if it was a wedding, I tell people okay, right before the one year anniversary, call back that number and say happy anniversary.
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So you can capture that too.
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So but to find more information about them, go to wwwlifeonrecordcom.
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All right.
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So my first question of this interview is going to be who is David Woods?
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Bart bartley you know, that's kind of interesting question.
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So I'm 61, youngest of four boys.
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I adore and I adore my three older brothers, jim, tom and john, and they're six, nine and eleven years older than I, and we lost our father.
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Um, our father, james hamilton bartley everybody called him Ham died when he was just 42.
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And unfortunately it was that evil lung cancer.
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But he was also saddled with horrific clinical depression.
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And I mentioned all that for a couple of different reasons, but the most important of which is that at the time that my father died, my eldest brother, he really moved in and from that point to this day really has continued to be my dad.
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And I say all that in that at 61, I've been on the planet for six decades and I've made this journey that continues, as they say, from mental hellness to mental wellness.
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And really now it's about trying to live my life to make my brothers proud, to make my beloved proud.
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Kids came into my life as little as seven years ago, my first wife, who I adored and still love very much, and we're friends and very, very good friends.
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We never had children.
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We took care care of animals, which we can talk about later but my beloved, my sweetheart now came with her three beautiful children, and I'm learning and I think I really I needed some more time on the planet to to be able to be reasonably competent as a bonus dad, and so every day it's it's about and I love what you, what you're all about, nadine it's just trying to offer some positive contribution to the world and and hope it is, but it is my mantra um yeah it's, it's in the work that I do as a speaker is the foundation is connection creates hope, and hope saves lives.
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Yes, and it's so.
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I mean that's kind of a little taste of who I am.
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Gotcha, I was looking at, I think, your Facebook page and I saw hope and I had to snag it from you because it was like hope pain ends, or something, and I was like, oh, that is the story of me too.
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So I was like I need that picture.
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Yeah, so it's hold on, pain ends.
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Yes, hold on.
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Pain ends Love.
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That I was like, because you know I've been going through chronic pain ever since, like 2000.
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So and I just recently got diagnosed I always say it wrong, I call it MP, but it's neuralgia, parathesikia, whatever it's called but I have no feeling in my left leg.
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It's called, but I have no feeling of my left leg and it's something that is done by a nerve, but it's been untreated for like a year and a half to two years.
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So I'm just at the point like, oh, just rip out that nerve.
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Like I want to be able to feel my whole leg.
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I'm only 46.
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I could not imagine being in this much pain going to 80 years old.
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Like I have a granddaughter, I want to be at the park with her and you know, having fun.
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My youngest, he's 12 and he plays football, so mom has to be able to move around.
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Mom go out for a pass, come on.
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I do, and you know what.
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We were out to see my friend yesterday.
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We went out by Oklahoma.
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We were swimming in our pool but we didn't have a football, so we used a water bottle and I'm like throwing it, just having a good time with him, you know.
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So I have to be that super mom, parent to do all that with him and everything so.
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But I love football and football is just amazing.
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He's really good at it, I mean for his age, playing wide receiver and doing touchdowns.
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I'm like Whoa, this is cool, exactly Right on brother.
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Yeah so, but definitely so, like with your journey going through all this whoo, I read your bio.
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You've got a story to share and I'm going to let you lead this and I'm going to have some questions along the way, so I know, that.
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So I know you use the word hellness and, yeah, seems like that's what you went through.
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So, guys, if you want tissues, bring them out, but you know, every illness there's hope at the end and a learning lesson.
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So I want to hear everything that you had to go through, but what you learned from it also.
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Yeah, so I think that the best place to start would be that on August 31st 2011,.
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I tried to kill myself, I tried to end my life by suicide, and I did that because what I believed not what, not what was factual, but what I believed was I was worthless and useless and stupid and pitiful and grotesque and ugly, and the world will be better off without me.
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All those different things.
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Beliefs are not necessarily true, but they're powerful.
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They are powerful.
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By that point, at 48 years old, nadine, I had lived with depression for almost all of my life.
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The famous chef David Chang battled bipolar.
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He has this incredible quote about depression that he has battled, as mentioned, in which he says when you're depressed, you're convinced that everything you think is true and it's just like oh, chef michael, it's exactly right and so.
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But my life was safe.
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God, in the form of a police officer, stopped me from jumping off a 730 foot tall bridge in Northern California and I was taken off the bridge and to an emergency room and into a psychiatric ward where I would spend the next 15 days and had an incredibly positive experience.
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But when people found out where I was and why, nadine, they couldn't figure it out.
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It made no sense.
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They're like what wait, david?
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And my middle name is Wood.
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Most people call me Woody and they're like wait, woody.
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Woody is depressed.
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Woody thinks he's useless.
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Woody Woody thought the world would be better off without him, and what really confused him was I was married, as mentioned before this beautiful, amazing woman, and we ran an animal sanctuary, and the animal sanctuary was phenomenal.
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It was called A Chance for Bliss, named after the first two 12 and 13-year-old brother-sister pair of Boston Terriers that we rescued and, ultimately, nadine.
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We had 100 animals.
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We had 25 horses, 23 dogs, all of whom lived in the house.
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We had nine pot belly pigs.
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We had goats and sheep and ducks and geese.
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We have 15 different species and because of the mama you have turtles.
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We did?
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We did have turtles.
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I always have to ask for turtles.
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We did have turtles and because of the mama bear heart of my former bride.
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We took the ones nobody wanted.
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So if you were an animal soul to come to us, you had to be sick, you had to be dying, you had to have been tortured, abused, missing limbs, deaf.
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So we did no adoptions.
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So animals stayed until they made, as we like to say, their transition.
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And on June 2nd 2010, we were the half-page cover story in the life section of USA Today.
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And yet, 14 months later, I was on a dark spot on a tall, tall bridge, one heavy thought away from killing myself.
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And the question people say is like dear God, brother, what happened?
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And what happened was I stood at the confluence of two things.
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One was genetics my beloved father.
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I don't have a lot of memories of him, but my three older brothers talk about how depressed dad was and my grandfather had killed himself.
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So I'm in the line, but my brothers don't have any depression Like what happened to Woody.
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Well, woody, at 12 years old, was raped, was sodomized on repeat occasions by a Boy Scout leader, and every time this thing did that to me before he would let me go, nadine.
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He would look at me and he'd say David, don't forget, these are initiations and all the boys go through it.
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What?
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But we don't talk about it, and so I didn't, and so I can tell you what I can tell you.
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When the monster of depression and I began our relationship and it's it's since august 31st 2011.
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It has been.
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Life has put me into the proximity of and he had before, but in terms of of, the question becomes well.
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How do you, how do you become well?
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And it is care of body, mind and spirit, however you define that, and it's about it's about diet, it's about sleep, it's about exercise.
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It's about diet, it's about sleep, it's about exercise, it's about time outside.
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I'm on four meds.
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I take them every day and it's a thing that I still fight, even at 61 years old, and I'm very compliant.
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And at the end of last year, I fell into a recurrence of crippling depression, the likes of which I had not had in decades, and was actively suicidal again.
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And my beloved dad, my eldest brother and my sweetheart, my beloved Summer I put my hands up like this because they're my two North Stars.
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Yeah.
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They guided me into ECT, or electroconvulsive therapy, and what I can tell you, nadine is 34 sessions later, the most recent of which, like two weeks ago, it's changed my life.
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Oh wow, it has been unbelievable what it has done.
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So that's like with the brain right.
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Yeah.
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So what they do.
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So what I do is every so.
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Now I'm just at once a month.
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When I started it was three times a week, and there's so much.
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They deem misconception, fear, stigma, yeah.
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And yet the efficacy rate of this is as a therapy is like 60 to 90%.
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But people are like, no, I mean, wait, you're going gonna shock me and cause me to have a seizure.
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How in the heck is that gonna help me?
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So here's what happens.
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So I go in, I see my beloved psychiatrist, dr, dr marasa, so we catch up she, as while she's talking, she's putting electrodes around my head.
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And then jo, the nurse, is putting a blood pressure cuff around my left ankle, and then the anesthesiologist is putting the IV in my right arm and then, right before he's ready to give me the general anesthesia to put me completely asleep, he says the same thing all the time Are you ready for your nap?
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I say yes, I am.
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So as soon as I'm asleep, you ready for your nap?
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I say yes, I am.
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So as soon as I'm asleep, then he gives me another drug that completely paralyzes me.
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Completely, because what they don't want to happen is when I have a seizure.
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If it becomes too vibrant, then I might hurt myself.
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But I always wondered.
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I'm like why is Joanne putting the freaking blood pressure cough down on my ankle?
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What they do is they pump that up so that my left foot is not paralyzed, so they can watch my toes to monitor.
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They know when the seizure is happening in my brain and the seizure goes for like 30 to 45 seconds.
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Then when it's done, 45 seconds, so it's like a partial seizure.
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Oh yeah, it's no more than a minute.
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Then they then they, then they reverse the paralysis.
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Then when I'm I'm caught, you know, then when I'm just normal, then they put me into recovery.
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So I'm in recovery for about an hour hour and a half and then I go home, start to finish.
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I'm at the hospital for about three hours and I've had 34 sessions and it is a seizure with each session.
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Oh yeah, that's exactly.
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And what happens is they say, well, why, how does it work?
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Well, what happens is it's basically like re, the, the seizures, and the activity that goes on in my brain as a result of the seizures rewires my brain and it floods it with neurotransmitters.
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It just it.
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I mean, I am a different person, I'm a better person as a result of this procedure and I'll I may have it for the rest of my life.
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I I don't know that's, I really don't care because it works.
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And like you similar to you, I won't say like you this has been a hard year and I have bone on bone on my left hip.
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I have no cartilage.
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It hurts bad, yeah, and my business has struggled, which I don't understand.
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It's just like last year was like people couldn't get a date, and so the only reason I say that before ECT, if either of those things would happen, nadine, I am going down depression alley, like you were, like who and what.
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I can tell you, I have both of these happening right now.
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I still I'm not going to have a new hip for another three months and it's not like my calendar is full yet.
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So I have both of these happening right now I still I'm not going to have a new hip for another three months and it's not like my calendar is full yet.
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So I have both of these happenings and you know what I can tell you I'm not depressed, it's amazing, it's unbelievable.
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You see, okay, I grew up with epilepsy.
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I still have it to this day and it stinks for what I go through because I'll get something.
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It's called Aurora, so it lets me know before my seizure comes like 30 minutes to an hour, and I'm like, oh, here we go.
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But I've been trying to figure out ever since I was a little girl.
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The last time I had a lot like this, I didn't know I was diabetic, and so I guess I need to see if I'm diabetic again, because I'm starting to get them and I'm like, oh, I was like so that and flickering lights back in when I was well, video games did cause a seizure, but I was at a casino with my friend like two years ago, and the lights even though I was winning money like good money, I was like I don't freaking care.
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I was like she was driving back so I could get my car and I was an hour away, but my whole intention was to drive back home that night and she's like she goes.
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You said something's not right and you started convulsing in the car and I was like, oh no, you know, it's just like.
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But I've had where I've jumped out of my body before with seizures.
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So like for me to hear.
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I was like, oh my gosh, I really hate seizures, but if it's helping with depression, that's a good thing.
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So because whatever they give us like what is it?
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Zoloft, or there's so many other brands out there oh, you're going to get this.
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Now I hit depression and they told me the depression was because I now, with my surgeries, I will be anemic and have iron deficiencies and iron deficiencies.
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It hits you like this, but depression is so fast.
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I remember calling, going I don't know.
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Like all of a sudden I'm at work and I want to hurt myself for some reason, don't know why, I didn't learn I need iron infusions.
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But what is going on?
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And my doctor knew she was people get depressed very fast and I never knew that.
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So yeah I, I I'd never heard the the relationship between the two.
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah, and you know I'll share something again, and I love serendipity.
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My beloved niece, jordan, has lived with epilepsy her entire life, so I am familiar with the incredible difficulties and challenges that you and my beloved niece live with.
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In fact.
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So she just had a surgery and I know there's a medical name, but it was basically she.
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They implanted a particular device in her brain that is that is designed to in like, like you experienced with, uh, with, however you do, aurora, thank, this device will ultimately do that for my niece.
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Oh nice, yeah and so, but my niece is amazing.
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I mean, what she has been through, oh, I guess.
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So I get the epilepsy thing, I do.
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Oh yeah, yeah, it's not fun.
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You know it's weird because I started when I was like six years old, so I thought it was only going to be bad, like when I was a kid, but no, it's actually getting worse as I get older.
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So, and I was just, I had a podcast with a neurologist, but we were talking about sleep, because if you don't get sleep, you can have a seizure.
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And it's like, oh man, like I hate it because they put me on a sleeping pill, because my brain goes a mile a minute.
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I want to create so many new companies.
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I can't shut it down.
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They're like here we're going to give you Ambien.
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