Dec. 1, 2024
Celebrating Individual Differences and Spiritual Wisdom with Dr. Bertino
Curious about how embracing your unique self can lead to personal growth and fulfillment? Join our Thanksgiving special on Keep Hope Alive as we explore the profound realms of spiritual guidance with the insightful Dr. Joe Bertino. Discover the essence of Jnana Yoga and the philosophy of neti neti, which guides us in the quest for our true selves by understanding what we are not. Dr. Bertino shares his journey to becoming a spiritual guide, a path that felt like a natural progression for him, while I reflect on my surprising but fulfilling career in wedding planning and photography. With over 190 interviews, our podcast continues to grow, fostering gratitude and inspiring personal growth.
Embark on a spiritual journey with us through the sacred wisdom of prajna and the intricate world of chakras. Rooted in Tibetan and Indian traditions, these concepts offer a pathway to enlightenment and self-awareness. As a Reiki master, I share how understanding chakras can aid in healing, even offering potential relief for concussions. We address the universal struggle of fitting in, whether at school or work, and suggest that self-understanding and spiritual awareness can lead to greater acceptance and harmony.
Celebrate individuality as we discuss the power of accepting imperfections and finding happiness in being different. Drawing from my book on embracing "weirdness," we highlight the importance of prioritizing authenticity over societal pressures. We touch on the impact of childhood experiences on shaping our identities and the challenges of overcoming enmeshment. Explore Joe H. Vertino's multifaceted life, from online presence to literary contributions, as he remains open to new opportunities while inspiring and educating people worldwide. Don't miss Joe's exciting ideas, including the potential for a humorous dating podcast and his comprehensive guide, "The Reiki Bible: A Guide to Reiki Living.
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Chapters
00:02 - Exploring Spiritual Guidance and Life Paths
08:03 - Understanding Prajna and Chakras for Healing
23:08 - Navigating Personal Growth and Mental Health
34:12 - Embracing and Expressing Individuality
41:37 - Expanding Horizons and Future Plans
Transcript
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Hello and welcome to Keep Hope Alive podcast.
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Today we have a great show.
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It is Thanksgiving tomorrow, so happy Thanksgiving.
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We got Dr Joe Bertino here today with us, so welcome to Keep Hope Alive.
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I'm so excited to dive into what he is going to share.
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But before we get started, doctor, I'm going to just call you doctor.
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How many weddings have you been to, let's say, in the past 10 years?
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Well, I guess I look like someone who might have been to a lot of weddings potentially, but I really haven't been to a lot of them, but I mean I do have, I have an affinity for them.
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Haven't been to a lot of them, but I mean I do have an affinity for them.
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I love dancing and I love celebrating and I love relationships and I love people and children and I even love fashion and, being a Leo who doesn't love that air of the weddings, where it's elegant, it's like the movie Amadeus, you know, and that kind of thing.
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But to me that's the best I could do with the answer, because the number side of the answer is depressing.
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I don't think it was even, it would be even.
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Uh, I, I, I, I'm, I'm assuming maybe two two, okay, I mean, you could say none too but I mean yeah, either way, we watch them on tv and everything.
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Um, but let's pretend.
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Let's say me and you are going to somebody's wedding and it was at a church and we're walking in there's something there you need to sign to let the couple know that you were there.
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What are you signing?
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Oh, you signed the guestbook.
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All right, so, dr Joe Fertino, I like that Fertino, it sounds like all Italian and stuff.
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So who are you is the biggest question.
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You said who or how.
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Who, both who, or how who are?
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you and a cool kind of connection with that is there's something in our shared world I guess we could say something in libraries and, in particular, how are you?
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And something in Indian philosophy called Jnana Yoga, and there's a part of that that's Sanskrit, I believe, is a language, and there's a kind of a saying phrase called neti neti and what that means is if you ask yourself who are you or what are you, you're looking at yourself and in that looking you're trying to find the truth, but you're really, you're not looking at anything else, and that phrase is called neti neti.
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So neti neti means I'm not, you're locating or you're finding out what you're not, and then that's all that's really.
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So in that sense, that's the kind of an answer to slide into what I am.
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In the sense I'm a spiritual guide.
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So that's called jnana yoga and jnana yoga is a branch of kriya yoga.
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Kriya yoga is also is a branch of Kriya Yoga.
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Kriya Yoga is also Sanskrit.
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Kriya means technique and yoga means union.
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So Kriya Yoga means how to have proper or the proper technique to have.
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Union with the divine is what Kriya Yoga means.
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So yes, I'm a spiritual guide.
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That is so cool.
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That is so cool, I mean, did you know you wanted to be this when you were younger?
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in my heart, chakra, already, that there was nothing that was unnatural about that, that being my spiritual, my truly, maybe you could say purely spiritual self.
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That is so cool.
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I feel like I look at my life too, and I knew at age 14, I wanted to be a certified wedding planner and I accomplished that.
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Then I became a photographer.
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I honestly just had a really bad seizure one day.
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I was by myself, it was a grand mall.
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But I woke up a whole new person.
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I bought a camera, I built my website, I marketed and, boom, I was off and running and I've been doing photography for over 25 years.
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So you just never know.
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But then I started another company called Wedcast and that was doing interview videos of the event planning industry.
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This is way before podcast ever was a thing and I was like, off of Wedcast, I wanted to do point of view interviews.
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So I knew there was something in me a long time ago that wanted to interview people and I was just like then here we go, keep Hope Alive was born and I love it, and we are right now over 190 interviews and I'm just like I feel so blessed and so grateful.
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We're growing up, you know, and we're learning it.
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I call it each year now that I hit 40.
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So I'm like, oh my gosh, it keeps flying by faster and faster, you know, after 40.
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I take it in and use it to my best ability.
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I think it's for me, I love it.
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When I go to church, I definitely hear I know it's my purpose and it's a gift and I love it.
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So, but that is so cool.
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Now there is a lot you have done.
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There was one thing I wrote that you wrote to me in your bio and I want to learn these terminologies, and I think you said Prajna.
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Am I saying it right?
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Prajna, prajna.
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Prajna.
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Oh see, I say things wrong.
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Yeah, prajna.
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What is that?
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Prajna is a tibetan uh word, and it's a very specific and ultimately important uh thing.
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Um so essence.
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So, prajna, p-r-a-j-n-a, it's uh.
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So tibet is a nation that is very, very renowned for being like a purist Buddhists, that they're ancient Buddhists, or the nation is, so to speak, that the roots of it are.
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And so, prajna, I'll tell you what Prajna means.
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I'll tell you what Prajna means.
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Prajna is the sacred wisdom that properly leads all souls to enlightenment, acquired throughout incarnations of correct choice-making by one soul that it comes through in words in this current lifetime.
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Oh, wow, yes, that's deep.
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I'm trying to take all that one in.
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I'm like that's really deep.
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Okay, so maybe that word was just standing out to me for a strong reason, I don't know.
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Wow, okay.
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So with the chakra, some people will know exactly what the chakra is and some people are still learning what the chakra is.
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What's the best way to tell somebody what it is?
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So chakras are another Sanskrit word, so Tibetan right isn't Sanskrit, sanskrit is Indian.
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So we've mentioned two, some people would say the most prevalent spiritual cultures, or and or lands, um, tibet and india, um, so chakras is sanskrit, um, we all have them.
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It's uh, so what it means?
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It means a wheel.
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Or we say, more accurately, in the sense of communication and language, an x in an understanding, uh, divine wheel, um, but it so, chakra means a wheel, so chakra is plural, um, we have seven of the seven main chakras that go from the base of the spine to the top of the head.
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Okay, everyone does so, no matter what.
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So, if we understand, if we understand chakras in this lifetime or we don't.
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If we're a good person, bad person, there's no condition to it.
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It's not something based in our it's nothing that is never in our hands.
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It's an objective fact.
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We all have chakras.
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As a Reiki master, I'm an expert in the field of exactly what I'm doing right now and also in healing, and there's the correlation between understanding the chakras and the optimum healing modality, which is Reiki.
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So that gives you some understanding right of chakras.
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Each of them have different attributes and such, and they all work together, and that working together equals all of your being.
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See, I need to look more into that.
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I mean, I learned about it a long time ago and I love learning about it and stuff.
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And then I learned about meditation and I love that too.
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Learned about meditation and I love that too.
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However, I'm having the hardest time trying to heal a concussion right now.
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They said it could take up to a year, but I was like, okay, chiropractor, this doctor, these medications.
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Now I'm like, maybe chakra is my answer, maybe I just need to work on those and help.
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And just, you know, I love drinking sodas, but I tried to change it to water for a little bit.
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I don't think it did much difference, I mean.
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But you know those things, I'm just trying to see if I can get like all the pain out of my neck and running through my arm and my head.
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I have, oh it feels like five migraines a day.
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It's not going away and I keep it in prayer.
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Right now I want to just go to sleep and wake up and one day it's just gone and I'm going to be so happy.
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But definitely Now.
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There was also really quick other topics and you've done so much.
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I want to talk about how people, when they say, how can I fit in?
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What is your best advice for that?
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How can people fit in?
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is your best advice for that?
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How can people fit in?
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Oh well, I I think I guess connecting some of the dots with the past of what I've we've already covered in this, and then I'll go from off of that, you know, kind of was like a step, and then we kind of take a little walk together with words.
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So, basically, we mentioned chakras.
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So chakrasras are, they're not people, they're, they're the way I see it is there, but there's seven of them, they're not just one of them, there's one of you, and all of them make up and are inter related in in every possible aspect of life.
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Right, because you having any possible experience, so to speak, is is, is connected to all of them.
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So, in that way, and then as we work right now, what we're doing is we're actually starting to understand ourselves, you know, in the sense of maybe a more, have a good night ma'am.
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Maybe a more, have a good night ma'am.
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A more maybe mechanical, you know, perspective in the sense of like, we're like a car kind of idea not to be offensive you know, but it's like, if you think of it that way, it can be a big relief for a lot of people.
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You know, instead of saying, well, I'm going to do some coloring again today and think about mindfulness, right, instead of that, right, we're taking a kind of more direct brain approach to self-understanding.
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And I already mentioned earlier jhana yoga, which is the path of self-inquiry, self-knowledge, or branch of kriya yoga, the path path, in that way.
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Um, so, oh sorry.
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So, oh sorry.
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Your question was the fitting in.
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Yes, one of the topics that I know you do cover is people will come to you and say well, you know, either I'm having trouble fitting in with people at work, or maybe it's a school thing.
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What?
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advice could you give them of how to fit in?
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Well, okay, so now, after us having some kind of more understanding, just generally, we you I mean, in that sense, the aspect of yourself that was is learning right, that is a student or is involved in true education was just here, right, yeah, that makes sense.
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So was there an issue fitting in during that?
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You listening to me teach you, because I know that's my highest excitement to do that Right, and it implies there's other people there specifically, you would listen to it and learn and benefit from it on all the possible levels.
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So what I'm saying to you is that's a a kind of measure, so go with that instead of anything else.
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Does that make sense?
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So kind of like a measure, what I mean?
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Hopefully that gets understood immediately, I would hope, but it's like, uh, the, the.
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The other thing is like I mentioned with johnic to give a little bit more words on that.
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It's the.
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You know, we have experiences that we immediately think about.
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Other people places things past future, right?
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Anything desires.
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None of that counts as Jhana yoga, right?
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So we have to.
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It's a very intentional act to put our gaze onto our self alone, right?
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So that is the problem is, is there anything device right or or not conducive for joy?
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Meaning like, uh, in between your what I, the recommendation or perspective sharing that I'm giving you, and fitting in, or rather, to be more accurate, your goals of or within fitting in of or within fitting in.
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Gotcha, Does that make sense yeah?
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it sure does.
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Yeah.
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So I'm taking it in right now.
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So yeah, I was just trying to picture like if it was somebody who was just struggling altogether, like just having.
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But when you said it has to be within you and you're making a choice and cognitive thinking, that thinking I get that I totally do, because everybody has that choice.
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If you're going to sit there and doubt yourself and say I'm no good, I'm broken, this is how my life is going to be, that's your way of well, it's negative energy, quite honestly, and I wish people didn't look at it that way and stuff.
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I wish you know, when you're going and setting goals out and trying to do better for yourself, that you having the right mindset is important too, correct?
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Well, yes, so that's basically the only thing that I can actually educate someone on is that level, so you're what I call it.
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The words is like that fell into my life, I guess, or fell into my lap out of my, you know.
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I kind of say like the reservoir above my head, you know, being an author, that's some colorful, immediate language, right.
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That is like kind of like a cloud or reservoir of creativity.
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That's just like kind of is here, but you can't grab it any other way but by like writing or something like coming up, creating, right.
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Yeah, definitely.
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So that's I like that smile, but that is awesome.
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Yeah, definitely.
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What was the other one?
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The other thing that I wanted to talk about today was, you know, when people also tend to say I'm alone.
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And with it being the holiday season, there's a lot of people that do go through that.
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If they are single or if they lost a loved one, it's a hard time for them to get through the holidays.
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When you look at it going, we can use me for prime sample.
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I can't believe I do this in all my shows.
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Yes, I am single and it's probably like the first year I've ever been singled on Thanksgiving.
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So it's, you know, everybody kind of goes.
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I don't want to be alone.
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And then you see, on dating sites not like the apps or anything, but like the groups on Facebook when are people going, you know, after Thanksgiving?
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Because I guess that's where they call it Friendsgiving.
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You got your family Thanksgiving and your friends giving and both of them are going to equal that energy in you out, because you're getting to spend time with two people that you care about.
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You know so, but feeling alone can we change that in our mindset?
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How would you direct?
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somebody to change that.
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So the phrase I was going to introduce that fell into my lap.
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I didn't finish that sentence, but thank you for sharing what you just did.
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The phrase that I, that fell into my lap, that I guess I coined, is proper positioning of mind.
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Is is what it is, so in context of being specifically, um, uh uh, being uh uh doing guided meditation work.
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So proper, proper positioning of mind is basically the thing.
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That's my, that's my Dharma, right, proper perspective.
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So you know, you know, in that, that way, um, you know, I mean, we mentioned fitting in thing, but basically it's when my goal is like, if people are listening to this and they wake up in the morning tomorrow and when they begin their actual day, like go outside of the house or whatever, to use some kind of example, even if they're doing something like that thing, right, where you are ready, and then you're like right, that thing happens.
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When then, for them to be in a lighter place generally and the way to actually do that is basically by, well, me obviously possessing the proper perspective constantly but for them to be able to have something happen inside of them where there's a little bit of a shift, just a little bit right, but that shift because it's a cognitive shift is like a permanent thing, right.
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So then basically they, they access more.
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It's like when people say you access more of your brain, right, or something like that, uh, so basically, in that, it's like the fitting in thing is instead of it, even though you're still in, you're still the same individual and you still have the same uh, you know, uh, uh, agenda desire, you know purpose-driven, uh, you know self-loving, growth, growth-based thing, that that right now you're you're dealing with specifically the fitting in, uh.
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But then from there, what happens is you just have a little bit more of maybe we could say, like our solar plexus chakra has to do with our self-will alone starts to a little bit less shame or a little bit less, yeah.
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So then from there, what happens is there becomes a more self, a little bit more self-respect, right, and that hand right, I'm using this kind of example with my hand that hand that's a little bit that's reaching out just pulls back, you know, and it doesn't need to be as big story or big, any kind of anything, but it just pulls back and it starts to get a little bit just where it's supposed to be in here or something, a more balanced place, in context of being out of balance or too far away from you know, like you, right, as an individual, and this is kind of like your positioning of mind, maybe right.
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So that being the thing is that there's only one person who's like the main character of your life and that's you, and I'm not demonizing anybody, you know, in that way, but we should be.
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My perspective is we should, we have to, should be comfortable with using really any language that is needed for us to fully express ourselves, language that is needed for us to fully express ourselves.
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And if there's resistances to that, then that has to start to whittle away, because our expression is never, ever, appropriate for us to think about as incorrect or needed, needing to be halted or whittled away.
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So, the fitting in thing is really about looking at your motivation in total, which is like jhana yoga right.
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So you're just still, you're still investing in yourself.
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So that's the thing is that I guess now you get into kind of that appropriate balance point between yourself and the external world.
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Gotcha, yes, yes, and people do see that and some people don't, but there is that other world.
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Gotcha, yes, yes, and people do see that and some people don't, but there is that other world.
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So it's a balance.
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I believe that we go through, you know, and I always called it your energy vibe lines.
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Look at my hand, just flapping like a bird, like a turkey bird, right so, flapping like a bird, like a turkey bird, right so?
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But yeah, so, when you are going through all that and the changes and the way you think, like we were just talking about, it's just.
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I think anybody with any kind of issue going on right now could take from the chakras and your teachings.
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Also, because I know you wrote a bunch of books and everything and I think what it was?
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It like four to seven different books.
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So I'm so excited, excited and surprised guys.
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You know I'm going to just throw this out there.
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The books that are available from Dr Joe, I'm going to put on to the website under our store so you can find them and get them too, but we are going to talk about all those books and everything.
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There's one more quick topic because, you know, the biggest thing for me is and it's been a hard one to talk about and it's very hard to hear.
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But people need to know that suicide is a real thing for people and you know, I do bring awareness about mental health on this show and make sure people are very strong to get through it.
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But the thought process of somebody even thinking and going down that lane of wanting to hurt themselves, you're in charge.
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You can change that.
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It's just we got to find out the different ways.
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There's a balance, you know, and I believe Dr Joe can give us some insight on that too.
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Yes, I would love to you know what and this is interesting, and I'll relate this to chakras, I guess we'll say alone.
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But basically what it is is there's something uh, the, the, I uh the.
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The right word is the word like release.
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So if like um, it's like if you get a good, like a massage, or there's like some kind of a you ever heard of ASMR?
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Yes, I believe I have.
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Or I think of like a massage or ASMR or Reiki.
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If you get a Reiki session right, you can have certain experiences that are like energetic releases.
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If people are struggling with suicidality, the thing is, if you go into kind of a more relaxed place and the use of words or kind of the proper like aiming of the mind, like as a spiritual guide, that's my business.
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I would call it like a more nihilistic kind of wave of like influence to somebody.
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So nihilism is basically a meaninglessness and from there you can have, oh, like this kind of senseless, kind of almost like joy.
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That can happen in that way, because senseless because you don't know the story, because there's no story to it, and in context of suicidality, basically, you know, if you ask any psychologist plus science, so meaning like a psychologist plus the data that we've collected, you would get a one, one clear answer that I'm about to say and declare that even that there's a thing that happens where, if it becomes pressured, then that's why I'm mentioning nihilism the meaninglessness thing to to would be the, the, basically something that could actually put a dent in suicidality.
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Because if you ask someone and I've been there, that's what I know from personal experience you could say the most potent thing is that meaninglessness, instead of it being like a trying to thing and talking back and forth and I'm getting somewhere.
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So, instead of trying to get somewhere, that relief that happens is what's needed generally.
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So that's my wisdom on that, and then also self-respect, I think I'll say in that way, is the most important thing, and that self-respect.
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